NECの山田さんとお話した結果を、報告します。
ＮＥＣの要望は以下のとおりです。
１．契約の有効性について
・先ず、ＳＡＰとして、ＩＢＭが何故この契約を有効と認めていないのかという理由を明確にして
ほしい。
・特に、契約期間について、“追加条件”の存在を確認してもらいたい。
2010年８月6日、ＳＡＰの佐藤さんがＮＥＣと-契約した時、追加条件として、最短契約期
間を5年としている。
・ＳＡＰは、契約の有効性をＩＢＭと協議の上、確認して欲しい。
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Translation / English
- Posted at 30 May 2018 at 19:38
I will tell you what I talked with Mr Yamada from NEC.
What NEC want is as follows.
1. For contract efficiency
・First of all, as SAP, we want IBM to clear why this contract is not be approved as efficient.
・Especially, as for contract period, we would like to be checked existence of "additional conditions".
When Mr Sato from SAP contracted with NEC on 6 August 2010, as additional conditions, the shortest contract period was for 5 years.
・SAP wants to be checked contract efficiency with IBM on talks.
What NEC want is as follows.
1. For contract efficiency
・First of all, as SAP, we want IBM to clear why this contract is not be approved as efficient.
・Especially, as for contract period, we would like to be checked existence of "additional conditions".
When Mr Sato from SAP contracted with NEC on 6 August 2010, as additional conditions, the shortest contract period was for 5 years.
・SAP wants to be checked contract efficiency with IBM on talks.
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- Posted at 30 May 2018 at 19:33
I would like to report you the result of the discussion with Mr. Yamada at NEC.
NEC's requests are as follows:
1. Validity of contract
- First of all, as SAP, clarify the reason why IBM does not approve the agreement as valid.
- Especially regarding the contract period, confirm the existence of "additional requirements".
Upon concluding the agreement between Mr. Sato of SAP and NEC on August 6, 2010, as an additional condition, the minimum agreement period was set to be for five years.
- SAP wants the validity of contract to be confirmed upon discussion with IBM.
NEC's requests are as follows:
1. Validity of contract
- First of all, as SAP, clarify the reason why IBM does not approve the agreement as valid.
- Especially regarding the contract period, confirm the existence of "additional requirements".
Upon concluding the agreement between Mr. Sato of SAP and NEC on August 6, 2010, as an additional condition, the minimum agreement period was set to be for five years.
- SAP wants the validity of contract to be confirmed upon discussion with IBM.
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Translation / English
- Posted at 30 May 2018 at 19:45
Let me update you about the results discussed with Mr. Yamada of NEC.
The requests from NEC are as follows:
1. Effectiveness of the contract
* First of all, NEC wants to know accurate/clear reasons from SAP why IBM would not approve the effectveness of this contract.
* Particularly, in respect to the period of the contract, NEC wants to make sure to confirm if any of "additional terms/conditions" are present or not. When Mr. Sato of SAP signed the contract with NEC on 6th August 2010, there was an additional term/condition which states that the shortest period of the contract shall be five (5) years.
* NEC wants to make sure that SAP confirms about the effectiveness of the contract by discussing with IBM.
The requests from NEC are as follows:
1. Effectiveness of the contract
* First of all, NEC wants to know accurate/clear reasons from SAP why IBM would not approve the effectveness of this contract.
* Particularly, in respect to the period of the contract, NEC wants to make sure to confirm if any of "additional terms/conditions" are present or not. When Mr. Sato of SAP signed the contract with NEC on 6th August 2010, there was an additional term/condition which states that the shortest period of the contract shall be five (5) years.
* NEC wants to make sure that SAP confirms about the effectiveness of the contract by discussing with IBM.
２．ユーザとの直接契約について
・ＮＥＣの販売戦略として、料金の回収やサービスの保守等をユーザと直接交渉はしないことにして
いる。VendorやBankを通してのみこのサービスを提供することにしており、ユーザとの直接
契約はしない。
・このため、ＮＥＣは、Ａ社と直接契約は出来ない。
・現在のＮＥＣ経由の最終ユーザはＢ社だけだが、今後、Ａ社等のポテンシャルなユーザも沢山
いる。
・今回の問題を解決して、今後ともＳＡＰとの契約は維持していきたい。
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Translation / English
- Posted at 30 May 2018 at 19:36
2. Direct contract with user
As NEC's sales strategy, they do not negotiate with users about collection of the fee and maintaining the service directly. They provide the service only via vendor and bank, and do not make a contract with the users directly.
For this reason, NEC cannot make a contract with A directly.
B is the only end user via NEC, but there are many potential users such as A in the future.
After solving the problem this time, we would like to maintain the contract with SAP in the future.
As NEC's sales strategy, they do not negotiate with users about collection of the fee and maintaining the service directly. They provide the service only via vendor and bank, and do not make a contract with the users directly.
For this reason, NEC cannot make a contract with A directly.
B is the only end user via NEC, but there are many potential users such as A in the future.
After solving the problem this time, we would like to maintain the contract with SAP in the future.
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Translation / English
- Posted at 30 May 2018 at 19:36
2. Direct agreement with user
- As a sales strategy of NEC, a direct negotiation with users is not allowed pertaining to the fee collection and service maintenance. The service is only provided through vendors or financial institutes, so no direct agreement is concluded with users.
- For this reason NEC is not able to conclude a direct contract with A.
- Currently although the end user via NEC is only B, there many other potential users such as A.
- By resolving this issue, it wants to sustain the agreement with SAP in the future, too.
- As a sales strategy of NEC, a direct negotiation with users is not allowed pertaining to the fee collection and service maintenance. The service is only provided through vendors or financial institutes, so no direct agreement is concluded with users.
- For this reason NEC is not able to conclude a direct contract with A.
- Currently although the end user via NEC is only B, there many other potential users such as A.
- By resolving this issue, it wants to sustain the agreement with SAP in the future, too.
なお、この問題は、ＳＡＰとＩＢＭを巻き込んだ法律の問題になると思います。
私は、この問題の解決に向けて、トムさんだけではなく、ＳＡＰとＩＢＭの関係者ともＣＣで情報共有をしたほうが良いと思います。
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Translation / English
- Posted at 30 May 2018 at 19:34
Furthermore, I think this problem will become a legal problem where SAP and IBM are involved.
I think that for the solution of this problem, not just Tom but other related people in SAP and IBM should be shared with information by CC.
I think that for the solution of this problem, not just Tom but other related people in SAP and IBM should be shared with information by CC.
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Translation / English
- Posted at 30 May 2018 at 19:32
Also, I think this matter will be a legal issue involving SAP and IBM.
I think it would be better for us to share the information with not only Tom but also the concerned people in SAP and IBM by adding them in Cc in order to solve this matter.
I think it would be better for us to share the information with not only Tom but also the concerned people in SAP and IBM by adding them in Cc in order to solve this matter.
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- Posted at 30 May 2018 at 19:35
Furthermore, we think this problem will become a legal issue involving SAP and IBM.
To solve the problem, I think we had better share the information with people concerned in SAP and IBM, not only with Tom, by including them in CC of the emails.
To solve the problem, I think we had better share the information with people concerned in SAP and IBM, not only with Tom, by including them in CC of the emails.
